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Emanhattan

Latin american animation

Posted by Emanhattan May. 11, 2009 @ 10:20 PM EDT

Hey there fellas.

Im just one final away from finishing high school. Im really excited and scared at the same time

It feels weird to know My life is going to make a drastic change soon. I have got so used to just live based on a system, wake up, go to school, back home, animate a bit, party on weekends and again and again and again,...

I will quite probably leave my town and study animation somewhere in my country but the truth is I don´t really know If I want to. I want to study animation in U.S.A. but it is not like Ive got the dough and the complete approval of my family to do this. And... you know. its just not the same thing.

Plus...most teachers here do not have any idea how a cartoon is made. Most universities in Mexico are just a lot of paperwork and word documents and little or nule learning. Most of the universities I have considered believe 2d animation is dead and that the future belongs to 3d animators. for this reason, most of the 3d animators I have met that try to use a 2d program, as flash, are not nearly as good as they should be, and logically they don´t have the same effectiveness in 3D itself because they did not learn the foundations of animation. Thing is you need to know how to animate 2d before jumping to 3D or you will allways suck.

This "3D only" way of thinking is one of the many things I dislike about animation schools here, and animation in general in Mexico.

the latin american animation industry is like every other product that comes out of here. mediocre.
Its always really sad for me to see that some of the most lazyly made flash shorts are refered to as "animation" even tough there is probably not a single bit of animation in them.

My favorite example is this abomination of a flash cartoon series that is transmited in MTv here.

I dont think the author of this horrible things has never in his life taken a pencil in his hand and touched a paper with it.

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oh lmao look I found some of it here in ng.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/
104956

I cant believe this guy used to get payed to do these things.
It is transmitted sometimes on a segment called "animasivo" wich means 30% or more of the content consists of tweens having conversations.

Other example (not transmitted in mtv) is this live sitcom transformed into a cartoon that I dont know If I like or not.

LIVE

.

ANIMATED OMG

.

But not everything is lost.
This is probably the most ambitious animation project Ive seen produced by a latin american animation company. It is basically derived of a mexican testicle joke wich was later on transformed into some sort of"entertainment for the whole family" thing. it looks ok I guess I will probably give it a shot sometime.

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One of the things I really dislike about mexican tv is the tendency to completely rip off ideas from shows from other countries. Ever seen American idol? We had LA ACADEMIA. Ever seen David letherman, we have "es de noche y ya llegue" (you are suposed to look for these things in google to compare them because I dont want to embed 4 aditional videos here).
Animationwise we also stole the concept of "Vh1 ILL-ustrated". but we say puta and pendejo isntead of bitch and asshole and we do it a lot more than you fine folks will ever do

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Anyway If I ever get some sort of job In the animation industry, no... If I ever get to ANIMATION SCHOOL I really hope it is in united states because around these parts I dont like what I see no sireee.

Sorry this is just me venting

anyway

Now that Ive stopped my ferocius bitching there is something I want to add

Ive been considering to postpone this long project of mine and make some short cartoons for a while. I´ve been wanting to work on something different for a month or so. Its been a while since I actually submitted something I worked more than a day on anyway.

The good news is Now ive got a lot more time, and skill I didnt have before, to work on these things, so lets see how it goes.

oh and dont forget to have your dayly dose of funnies!!! YUMMY!

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Updated: 05/12/09 12:07 AM Log in to comment! | Share this!

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36 Comments

May. 11, 2009 | 10:23 PM Fawx says:

vince
the
voodoo
doll

May. 11, 2009 | 10:27 PM Emanhattan responds:

a
phenomenon
known to
just
a
few


May. 11, 2009 | 10:29 PM Kyaztro says:

ughh... I keep cringing at the thought that I'll have to learn how to animate in 3-D if I want an actual animation job. I'll never look at Toy Story the same again.

May. 11, 2009 | 10:31 PM Emanhattan responds:

It will never lose its charm tough

Updated: May. 11, 2009, 10:31 PM

May. 11, 2009 | 10:29 PM peixeaquatico says:

chavo is a great success here in Brazil

and here is called the chaves

May. 11, 2009 | 10:39 PM Emanhattan responds:

lol nice.

hes got success in mexico too

but I dont really like it.

Updated: May. 11, 2009, 10:39 PM

May. 11, 2009 | 10:39 PM K111 says:

fuck your family, do what you think is right

May. 11, 2009 | 10:41 PM Emanhattan responds:

they pay the bills!


May. 11, 2009 | 10:48 PM Flee says:

Chavo del Ocho was the shit.


May. 11, 2009 | 10:58 PM WAaAzZAaA says:

nunca pero nunca le llames a alejo y valentina una animacion
no puedo soportar que ese aborto de de southpark, sea pasado por television

en cuanto a humor se refiere, esta en el medio,
solo porque dice groserias es gracioso
pero en la "animacion" no tiene nada bueno.

huevocartoon fue y seguira siendo lo mejor en animacion "latina"

May. 11, 2009 | 11:07 PM Emanhattan responds:

alejo y valentina es malo como un ataque cardiaco.

eso es lo triste del asunto.

no digo que huevo cartoon sea malo, porque la verdad los disfruto pero

lo mejor? entonces nuestros estandares aun son muy bajos

quien sabe quisa el tiempo cambie las cosas


May. 11, 2009 | 11:04 PM Lalo says:

Descontrol sucked. actually every mexican animation has sucked so far.

May. 11, 2009 | 11:10 PM Emanhattan responds:

good to see we are on the same page here LAYLO


May. 11, 2009 | 11:16 PM mrnihil says:

who cares what your family says? families are for losers.


May. 11, 2009 | 11:46 PM MrAbnormal says:

Well that sucks. Get your ass over here to America.

May. 12, 2009 | 12:01 AM Emanhattan responds:

my ABNORMALLY BIG ass


May. 12, 2009 | 12:29 AM DungeonKirby says:

Me gustaa descontrol pero la segunda temporada estubo medio cagasona y creo que lo canselaron

May. 12, 2009 | 12:56 AM Emanhattan responds:

me gusto un solo episodio la primera vez que lo vi y eso fue todo.

es maaaaaaaaaaaaalo


May. 12, 2009 | 12:49 AM lenkobiscuit says:

I think 3D has amazing potential for expressiveness that just hasnt been tapped into yet

its all about applying the principles of 2D stuff to it

Too bad everyone is lazy as fuck and motion captures everything nowadays.

May. 12, 2009 | 12:54 AM Emanhattan responds:

the dreamworks face strikes back

Updated: May. 12, 2009, 12:55 AM

May. 12, 2009 | 3:38 AM Doomsday-One says:

Everyone steals everything.
American Idol is just a rip-off of the British Pop Idol.

But it's alright, the British stole things like The Apprentice.

Anyway, the 3D thing sucks. Hope you get into somewhere which is a lot more open about what makes a good animation.
Oh, and good luck with whatever project you're doing now.


May. 12, 2009 | 5:06 AM ShouYun says:

Cool! It's VooDoo Vince! Damn good game.

May. 12, 2009 | 12:41 PM Emanhattan responds:

really stylish too!


May. 12, 2009 | 7:18 AM TheBoogley says:

Well, if you can learn the skills the fact that there isn't much quality animation in your country could work out great for you. Do you have any local community tv networks where you are? If so you should try and volunteer, if not, I should take my head and shove it up my own arse.


May. 12, 2009 | 7:55 AM Sonucais says:

a el loko lo blamearon unas cuentas veces en NG

May. 12, 2009 | 1:47 PM Emanhattan responds:

no me sorprende


May. 12, 2009 | 8:08 AM shade10247 says:

HOLY SHIT YOU HAVE SWINE FLU AHHHHHH


May. 12, 2009 | 8:35 AM destructin says:

I like chavo del 8, but the cartoon version has a bunch horrible tweens.


May. 12, 2009 | 12:41 PM Wasim says:

you could also just stay in mexico and be like the best animator there


May. 12, 2009 | 3:30 PM ChuckDaKnife says:

Bueno, por lo menos Alejo Y Valentina era gracioso al principio.
Pero no culpes al tipo (que por cierto es argentino), él hacía las cosas por diversión despúes MTV lo contrató y bueno, bien por él.
Ah, y todavía no lo cancelaron.

IN ENGLISH:
At least Alejo & Valentina was funny at first.
And you don't have to blame the guy (who is argentinian, by the way). He was just making toons for fun, and MTV hired him. Good for him.
Btw, it hasn't been canceled yet.

May. 12, 2009 | 4:22 PM Emanhattan responds:

Eso es lo que me molesta

cualquier abominacion de programa que diga "pendejo" o "puta" es instantaneamente hilarante o "hardcore" o algo asi.

Claro, una viga aqui y haya hacen mas gracioso el programa, pero en alejo y valentina no importa ni siquiera el contexto lo unico que importa es decir vigas sin importar quien o por que lo diga.


May. 12, 2009 | 3:52 PM fede1920 says:

alejo y valentina used to be some kind of funny when it was only a little internet cartoon , now it sucks balls really bad


May. 12, 2009 | 4:07 PM RainbowRiderAlpha says:

Is it weird having a movie called LA PELICULA DE HUEVOS?

THE MOVIE OF BALLS.

I guess not.

Or does huevos only mean eggs.

Alright,
I don't know what I'm talking about anymore I'm getting dizzy my pants are

Oh yeah,
You're lucky Mtv actually has content. In America it's nothing but fake reality shows about rich teenagers. But I know you're talking about animation in general so that sucks; a 2003 newgrounds series is a nationally broadcast tv show where you live. But you have to admit, although the animation was bad the cartoon itself wasn't HORRIBLE.

Good luck with everything.

May. 12, 2009 | 4:25 PM Emanhattan responds:

a)haha well let me explain. eggs is huevos in spanish, and huevos seem to be the new word for "testicles". so yeah you actually got it right.

b)those tv shows about rich stupid teenagers are transmitted here too.


May. 12, 2009 | 4:16 PM latino-toid says:

Ill go back to the 88's, See YA Sucker :D

May. 12, 2009 | 4:28 PM Emanhattan responds:

you are an idiot put the idiot hat on and sit on the idiot corner please

Updated: May. 13, 2009, 1:58 AM

May. 12, 2009 | 5:15 PM l33tsupah4x0r says:

Bno con tu problema, no te preocupes por no desarrollar bien la animacion 2-d. Practica solo con lo que sabes y desarrolla tu propio estilo cuando tengas tiempo, te haras mejor. No solo es importante la animacion, sino tambien el guin.

Bno,Alejo y Valentina=MIERDA

El Chavo era buena pero la serie orignial, con actores y todo. Ahora la animación es medianamente decente, pero las voces y los argumentos la cagaron totalmente y arruinaron la gran leyenda de la television mexicana.

Las pelicula de huevos ambas estan super bien, ademas de las series flash en su sitio.
Y descontrol, era muy gracioso, pero luego perdio su encanto y la sacaron.
Si te anima, no eres el unico gran animador mexicano aqui en Newgrounds, que tal, Vinnie-Veritas, Konejo o Darkar? Ellos son tambien muy buenos.

May. 12, 2009 | 7:29 PM Emanhattan responds:

jojo no soy un "gran" animador jaja ;)

Updated: May. 12, 2009, 7:30 PM

May. 12, 2009 | 6:19 PM MAYORMCHEESE says:

i miss ill-ustrated

the one with arnold and stallone breaking into that woman's house was the funniest shit

May. 13, 2009 | 2:00 AM Emanhattan responds:

Michael Jackson/Alien crossover is really great tho

Updated: May. 13, 2009, 2:03 AM

May. 12, 2009 | 7:00 PM SkoolCool says:

Lo mas deprimente de este post es que es 100% verdad TODO. La animación mexicana apesta, lo único bien desarrollado como ya comentaste es la peli de Huevocartoon, habra que averiguar donde estudiaron los animadores, amenos que sean todos extranjeros. Te deseo suerte buscando donde estudiar, y luego me cuentas a donde te fuiste, que yo en 3 años voy a estar en las mismas.

May. 12, 2009 | 7:32 PM Emanhattan responds:

Deseame suerte :U


May. 12, 2009 | 8:19 PM ChuckDaKnife says:

Repito: AYV fue graciosa durante masomenos los primeros 10 capitulos.
Despues de eso, adhiero. Una mierda.

Ah, y sabés que animación latina si me gustaba? Nada Que Ver.

May. 12, 2009 | 8:39 PM Emanhattan responds:

kofi annan

Updated: May. 12, 2009, 8:44 PM

May. 12, 2009 | 8:25 PM DaxI says:

I happened to think the Chavo cartoon version was pretty appealing.


May. 12, 2009 | 8:50 PM frikipedia says:

ah! swine flu!


May. 12, 2009 | 8:57 PM A-Wahl says:

Ni haz visto ese programa "betty toons" que pasaron en Cartoon Network. No es bueno. No creeo que los latinos fueron hechos para hacer caricaturas animadas.

May. 13, 2009 | 1:52 AM Emanhattan responds:

Acabo de buscarlo en youtube y ahora recuerdo haberla visto alguna vez

sssssep

bastante malita la caricatura ;O

Bueno eso es lo que pasa cuando tratas de crear una serie totalmente vacia de inspiracion o creatividad y basada en un programa de television como es betty la fea que es espectacularmente putrido para empezar

pinche television latina por que eres tan mala :(

Updated: May. 13, 2009, 1:52 AM

May. 12, 2009 | 9:03 PM zach8thorn says:

haha u have swine flu.

May. 13, 2009 | 1:53 AM Emanhattan responds:

No i dont shut up OINK OINK SWHINE GOD


May. 12, 2009 | 9:23 PM SweenDogDude says:

o.O You has the swine flu!


May. 12, 2009 | 11:18 PM MrAbnormal says:

AND THAT IS THE JOKE!

May. 13, 2009 | 1:54 AM Emanhattan responds:

This is my happy box!

I put things in it that make me happy!

do you want to see whats inside??????


May. 13, 2009 | 8:43 AM Wasim says:

je mange caca du bien

fok all da haterzzz

zuidoost reprsent 4 lyfe jwz!!!!


May. 14, 2009 | 8:16 PM ThePigeonMaster says:

jajaja un dia de estos pensaba en hacer tambien una critica hacia la animacion latina :P

para serte honesto, disfruto muchisimo alejo y valentina, no porque sea la mejor comedia de nuestros tiempos sino porque los guiones y la animacion son tan malos que me dan risa jaja aun recuerdo cuando esa serie era exclusiva en el internet :P

Sigue tus sueños y quiza podrias terminar trabajando en Pixar o en Dreamworks (uno no puede saber lo que le prepara el destino).

Por cierto, sabes la razon por la que la mayoria de los programas latinos son malisimos? Falta de ORIGINALIDAD.

May. 14, 2009 | 10:45 PM Emanhattan responds:

lo se. eso es mas o menos lo que dije

pero sabes algo?

no es ni siquiera la originalidad

es la ejecucion.

La academia y otros adefesios como descontrol podrian haber sido geniales si hubieran tenido una pizca de estilacho en ellos.


May. 17, 2009 | 8:58 PM Zyphonee says:

Alejo y Valentina?! Si, Alejandro Sykula es probablemente uno de los peores animadores que existen. El progreso en su trabajo se nota casi tanto como en el de Illwillpress.

May. 18, 2009 | 1:00 AM Emanhattan responds:

son como clones


May. 18, 2009 | 10:48 PM Zyphonee says:

Ah, también te olvidaste de City Hunters. Esa series esta muy buena para ser de animación sudamericana. Como un gran fan de los comics de Milo Manara, se puede notar que no hicieron exactamente lo que este tipo estaba pensando en hacer, pero el resultado igual es bastante bueno, aunque como era un estudio de animación 2D en Sudamérica y el resultado lo iban a llevar a USA, terminaron haciendo los fondos en 3D, pero es uno de los mejores exponentes de animación latina que existen, lastima que la mayoría de la gente cree que se origino en Estados Unidos y no le da crédito a Gastón Gorali y Alberto Stagnaro que se nota que laburaron muchisimo en esa serie. Un verdadero orgullo para la Argentina, lastima que no redime a Alejo y Valentinfffffff....

May. 19, 2009 | 12:57 AM Emanhattan responds:

wow en serio esa es animacion latina? que barbaro!

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